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-----Original Message----- Jeff Shirkey wrote: <snip> Is his dvd going to show me anything that I can't already find in my other videos/dvds/books? Maybe, but maybe not. I'd just like to know what I'm getting first before spending that much cash. ---->You would probably be able to sell it on eBay if it wasn't what you wanted. I also want to point out that looping (hey! We're back on topic!) affords the guitar player an environment conducive to study exclusive of other materials. Let's pretend that the music is "in you"--looping allows you to investigate that as an observer, and also enables you to create Aebersol-like backup noise. BTW, I think $25/hr is a good rate for lessons (I am just pulling that out of nowhere); at that rate the $175 for this http://www.abstractlogix.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17686 qualifies as a bargain. Not that I'm buying it--but John IS the man (along with some others still living). Wonder what Andre LaFosse (or Mike Keneally!) charges for lessons? Gary (still longing to understand harmonic substitution)