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> Aside from the part about "what girls like", I would say learning > looping is quite similar, not different. You are also learning about > music, culture, a process for creating, techniques on an instrument, > the stylistic vocabulary of that instrument. It's much more than a > bunch of buttons on some box. A looper is an instrument that takes a > lot of learning and practice to become skilled, and the manual that > came with the looper isn't going to teach you most of that. It just > tells you what the functions and buttons do and where to connect the > cables. I disagree about the culture thing. Did you know that BMI was created, among other reasons, after ASCAP refused to give African American artists the same mechanical royalty as white Tin Pan Alley artists? The History of American Popular Music not the History of Looping. Learning the guitar, at least how I teach it, is part of culture. You can totally disregard this kind of information when doing looping. For that matter you can leave it out teaching guitar but I don't. By the way this was a college course I taught, I don't teach any cultural info privately unless I'm teaching to a Republican Fascist Armageddon Head and they usually have one lesson and they're gone. Fuckerz. Now there is an aspect of culture that's built in to looping and that's creation. We did see a guy loop a Paul Simon song at Y2K4, while very nice and imbued with the cultural aspects of Africa, is not exactly what I had in mind. But I would think you come pre programmed with this information before you get an EDP. > > So far as I can tell though, looping is not a very good way to meet > girls. Well, I'd say that looping and classical music would introduce you to the kind of girl you'd wanna marry. > >> Happens to involve technology now and manuals that don't, maybe, go >> about being tutorial like and that are using an organizational >> principal based on jargon, are somewhat hard for me. > > Is jargon avoidable? I don't see how. At some point you have to give > names to concepts and ideas and functions. Overtime I think it just > becomes necessary or the communication is too cumbersome for those who > talk about it all the time. The names develop naturally. When somebody > new comes into it, part of learning the subject is learning the terms > that go with it. That is also true for classical guitar as much as it > is for looping or anything else. In the beginning with any new > subject, it is always confusing while you figure out what all the new > words mean. I can't think of any new piece of jargon that has entered the general classical guitar for years. Really. This is why it kind of sucks being in a fixed bug in amber kind of discipline. I have created new jargon like headstock pitch and backtones but that's just me. Not generally used. By the way, I plugged a really tweaked processor and continuous control pedals to the EDP and I've got something I can live with in looping. I can subject a loop to a long envelope of process and it's like rolling the dice. I have been morphing loops into things that are unrecognizable from the original. Coop Larry Cooperman New Millennium Guitar http://www.newmillguitar.com