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Looks just fine to me nothing wrong in the work you have done and just in case you wondered the commentary about cookie cutter/cookbook was not directed at you at all just the idea that there is really any such thing akin to a full EDP method book. Listening to your very nice recordings I can tell that you too have an investment of time and effort involving learning to use the EDP. I think it is helpful if one has some solid musical ideas outside of and beyond music made purely by the usage of a looping tool and I suspect most here (if not all) have that quality. This attribute in itself may limit who actually ever gets involved in looping with any degree of accomplishment. Someday cookie cutter players/performers may very well be imitating some or all portions of what is currently being done at the moment with looping devices. Learning by imitation is a useful and helpful tool but, the device requires a mindset that removes one from just imitating others interpreting might work but copying/replicating others won't serve all that well. Next time I will to remember to point out you site as it points to addional resources that are availble or if I think of something new I will add it to your site. Later on :) Al Kroeger -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Wagner [mailto:loopdelightml@nosuch.biz] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:13 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: EDP manual Sorry, if I state more precisely: The idea of this cookbook actually is not "Bernhard being the individual who creates ..."