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Since this pedal, while not a looper, has come up in previous discussions, I just wanted to give people a quick heads-up: There's currently a $40 rebate offer for Yamaha's MagicStomp pedal until 31 Jan., 2005. You can grab the rebate coupon at: http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pdf/rebates/151558.pdf Of course, you don't have to actually purchase the product at Musician's Friend to receive the rebate (even if you download the rebate coupon from their servers). I just ordered a MagicStomp from AMS for $139.95. Taking the rebate into account gave me an effective price of ~$99 -- quite a bit lower than the $299 list. For those of you not familiar, the MagicStomp is a "best of" pedal which steals algorithms and patches from Yamaha's previous UD-, DL-, & AG-Stomp boxes, and places them together with some of the patches from the newer SPX-series rackmount effects units. More background at: http://www.magicstomp.com/ . --m. _____ "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" -recoil