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My last note was kinda cerebral, but I realized I feel very moved by you guys sharing your personal feelings, stories about music, looping, and self-esteem -- So wanted to share some of my own feelings - I definitely relate to the misfit finding a home in music story - Remember noodling at the piano, maybe age 7 or so, as my mother and sister were talking for what seemed like hours- I really craved the intimacy but didn't know how to get it, so looked for it in the sounds of my music -- Music has been both a healer and an isolator for me (especially with the advent of computers, loopers) -- What's interesting is, I've spent the last 4 years or so in an intense lonely woodshedding phase, learning looping, raga singing, and some other solo stuff -- as I pursue the artistic direction naturally flowing out of that, it's taking me to playing in lots of duos, collaborating with dancers, and teaching my improv voice class -- which is all about relating to other people. So it's almost as though the natural pursuit of an intense solo art that I developed as something to balance out my feeling of disconnection and alienation is leading me to heal the trauma that created that need - by pushing me into pursuing connection with others as I become dissatisfied with just doing it alone. Does this make any sense? And kudos to Rick for your solo vocal looping shows -- that's just what I'm talking about, there's something in pursuing our path that naturally pushes us to take risks. And if we're brave enough, we rise to the challenge . . . How about this idea - art is a naturally self-evolving spiritual path?