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hi and thanx for the detailed information! i was pointed out to ableton before, but i rather prefer to use a hardware looper. i didn't quite understand what you meant by overdubbing - is it correct, when i record somethin and i like it i can record something additional ontop of the original matreial . but when i do this, both become one file and can not be seperated anymore, right? like for example if i sing into the machine, and then have the voice looped i can sing another voice ontop of it, but when i export it from the flashcard it is ONE audio file, right? or is there a possibility to listen to the two recorded voices seperately? and next question: i read the repeater is stereo, so could i reach more tracks if i recorded and panned each track to get eight mono tracks??? thanx > Hi Simon, > > And welcome to the list! If you can stand recording on a computer I > think Ableton Live will do all the things you listed. However, if you > should want to record by overdubbing many layers into the same loop it > gets a little complicated in Live. But as you did not specify overdub > looping I take it you don't want to do that and I can recommend Live. > There's a free demo to download with a very good PDF manual so you can > really check it out deeply before buying. http://www.ableton.com/ > > When recording loops into Live you can prepare a session by assigning > midi notes, or foot pedals if you want, to empty slots. You start the > sequencer and as you send the controller midi addressing a certain slot > it starts recording. Then it keeps on recording until you send the same > msg a second time. Voila - there you have a loop, without ever stopping > the groove. You can go directly from recording into having the loop > immediately playing back. Just listen, play, record, evaluate, delete, > play again and so on. > > I have also been using the Repeater and although it has only four > tracks it will let you overdub as many layers you need on each track. > Except for being a piece of dedicated hardware that's the biggest > difference IMHO. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > --- > http://www.looproom.com (international) > http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site) > http://www.cdbaby.com/perboysen > > > On Nov 24, 2004, at 21:53, simon absent wrote: > > > hi! > > > > thuis is mt first thread, i am a new member of this list - hjello > > everyone > > :-) > > > > well i have a question which i am sure you can answer fore me... > > > > i want to become a member of the looping community but i have problems > > finding the right tool. so i thought i'd describe what i want to do > > and you > > tell me which looper will suit my needs, okay? > > > > here i go: > > > > what i want to do basicly is find a better way to setting up grooves > > and > > soundcapes - using a sequencer and having to stop playing is a pain in > > the... > > > > i need a device, which lets me record loops as intuitive as possible. > > i want > > to record my individual instruments on to several tracks, because > > after i > > have finished the jam session and i'm satisfied with the result i want > > to > > make a song of that matrerial. but if i have it all recorded in the > > device > > it is one soundfile and i can not split it up again for arranging and > > mixing > > - so it should be a recorder which has as many individual tracks (and > > outputs) as possible. of course if i record two similar guitars, i > > should > > also be also able to merge them to one track. > > > > it doesn't need to have an output for each track - it would be also > > okay i > > (once finished with a loop) could playback every part of which the loop > > consists seperately and record that onto harddisc - when finished i can > > rearrange the soundfile and rebuild the loop in a audio sequencer - - > > then > > start arranging. > > > > also it would be cool if the device could play several loops in a row, > > say i > > recorded the "verse" and then i want the "refrain" loop to come > > afterwards... and so on. > > > > my best choice so far was the electrix reopeater - but it only has four > > tracks. if i could sync two of them it would be just fine... > > > > or do you have any other devices which are even better for my purpose? > > > > > > tell me, i would apreciate any help from you!!! > > > > simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail + 3 Top-Spielfilme auf DVD > > ++ Jetzt kostenlos testen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ++ > > > > > -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum supergünstigen Komplett-Preis!