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Hi guys n gals its Phill Aka Lol C Aka Blackface etc. after a long hard road with getting chucked out of this group with my previous address I have changed to a new account just for this list and so far it all seems to be going roses. I wanted to chime in on this one because it is probably one of the biggest questions that i have been asking myself latley,(should I allow myself to get into synths) i cant belive I have not brought the topic to this forum before. to my mind this debate of whether to use a synth fx unit or whether I stick to creating all my sounds using just a guitar begins with me asking the question of why I loop in the first place, to eleborate, if you want to do so many things why not get a band or at least a precussionist or something. part of the reason that I always stop just short of buying a guitar synth is that a LARGE part of the reason i loop is that this paradigm creates an element of limitation, synths and so on seem to offer such a large range of sound tweaks and so on that i think i would spend so much time playing with the pallette, of sounds available I may never actually loop. another of my problems with synths is that the reason I loop is that it is somehow "real" and "live", I am comfortable with what I know about it and how I can justifiy it to others if they are interested. I can show people how this is all done by one person in realtime without the use of samples or whatever (its not that I dont like samples , its just that within my own paradigm I would have to think........ well, if you use a sample of drums why not get a drum machine, which is only one step away from a sequencer and a drum machine on a laptop which is only one step from a drum machine a sequence and some orchestration, then i would think why not do a backing track and before you know it you are a karioke artist not a looper......... ) sorry that all kind of burst out, hope you see what I mean though, all those things are useful to some people some of the time, but I think I am scared of where that first step of buying a synth might lead. I think that I need to set my self some boundrys within which to work, this also has implications for normal gig settings too, I already write stuff at home that uses so many different pedal combinations that I have to start from the bottom up and rbuild before I have a song that is usable on the road sort of speak, I think this might also get worse if I added other stuff a guitar synth, a real synth for that matter or even a pair of bongos, all of this would in one hand make my life simpler by giving my easy access to things that i have to be very creative to achieve with my current sound setup, but would also paradoxically complicate my setup by adding in more floorspace/another input/wallwart/if its a live instrument anothe rmic and more risk of feedback etc.......... I think you will be able to tell by this ramble just how confused I am about this, but hopefully if you all chime in I might reply with what I feel in a few days time!!! Bye for now Phill >From: "Krispen Hartung" <info@krispenhartung.com> >Reply-To: <info@krispenhartung.com> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: RE: Robert Fripp's Radiophonics and A Blessing of Tears >Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:10:19 -0700 > > > My contention is basically that every song sounds so similar to me, > > and there is no real interesting melody work to give each song an > > identity of its own. I'm sure Fripp would beg to differ, but as a > > listener, I'm not drawn to any particular song as having a unique or > > strong musical fingerprint or personality. It sounds like > > stereotypical synth ambient music to me. > > >but he should give up the synth. > > >> I did. > > >>Worked for me. > >Very interesting comment, David. I'd like to see your elaboration on >this. I think I know where you are going with it. I gave up the synth >as well, several years ago....the hex-pickup variety that is. I still >use a synth-like algorithm in my effect unit...but for the most part I >try to get all I can out of the natural guitar sound and effect >alterations. > >Kris > >-- >* David Beardsley >* microtonal guitar >* http://biink.com/db > > _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger