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i'm not sure about synth intros, but i've always liked a. belew's "desire caught by the tail" his 80's guitar synth album. always thought that album sounded real cool. it made me want to make weird noises... as for the debate on fripp and his 90's loops (soundscapes) cd's...i'm not an expert on fripp, but have his soundscapes 1999 album (from '95 i think) and i do think it's a subtle listen. i think most of the songs take about 2 min to really come into hearing range, so it may be a "low recorded album", but i think it's a good representation of a live "event". the live king crimson dvd "eyes wide open" has fripp doing an opening song/soundscape, and it's interesting to see how he works/creates his stuff. his rack is huge, and it looks to me (this was recorded circa '00) that he's running 2 eventide processors, but i know there's more, and there's a brief closeup where it looks like he's manipulating the pitch on a patch. again, it's a slow building intro,but like i said interesting to watch, wish he'd have a full dvd of just soundscapes just by him. i'm sure it'd be a "very narrow" selling item, but i'd enjoy it.... my late 2 cents on things....s--- ps-i've been listening to a bunch of loop cd's: michael k's (nemoguitar) latest he just sent me, andre L.'s "normalized" (which i'd love to see a live dvd of this stuff), and was listening to ted K's cd in the car today, wow, he gets some great sounds too.....(i'm always saying "how'd he do that when listening...) pps-to newbie's looking for loop gear, my main setup is my digitech rp100 for 2 sec delay loops, which gets dumped to my dod d-12 for 6 sec samples (to save delay manipulations) and then processed by my lexicon mpx100, a pretty simple set up, and cheap and works for me. i would still like to see a great (or any) instructional dvd on how people use the edp...and could someone get it out b/4 xmas so i can add it to my list? i'd just like to see how people use it, since i've heard it in application. oh well, i can wish.... happy looping.... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail