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Hi Chris, just had started to play with my llopy llama - short version: works fine basically, and I look forward when it will turn into a fully-fledged EDP competitor: One question: as I understand it, when recording loops in "endpoints" mode, with the first press of the record button, you start the loop, with the next press, you close the loop, and with the next press, you start overdubbing. This closely resembles the way the Repeater works and with which most people (including me) are unhappy: it would be great to be able to go into overdub right when ending the loop. Of course, as I understand your UI, this would require an additional button (a "play" button). I would suggest checking other (hardware) loopers for their interface structure; from what I kinda read from your post, you're also familiar with the DL4? Another thing: I think it's a pity I lose my loop when I change the tempo. But I assume that would be a really major change indeed. Thanks for your ear! Rainer -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Chris Kline [mailto:contact@chriskline.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Januar 2005 10:04 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: New Looper: Loopy Llama I have developed a VST software looper, the Loopy Llama, that emulates many of the best features of the Lexicon Jam Man, Frippertronics, and the Line6 DL-4. I am curious about the opinions of the looping community towards a looping plugin, and I am distributing it free right now. Please see http://www.rekliner.com/?PageID=14 for details on the looper. Do not discount this just because it requires a computer, it is designed for REAL-TIME use with a foot controller. The act of using a computer live is still in its infancy but it IS starting to happen for the less nerdy types. A reasonably priced laptop and pro audio interface can now compete with the latency of a dsp foot pedal (yes, they do have latency). I have the technical info to back that up at http://www.rekliner.com/?PageID=19. I hope this is the start of a new outlet for live looping, Line6 seems to think it's "no longer marketable" and sadly discontinued the DL-4. Let me know your thoughts, Chris http://rekliner.com