Re: EH 16-sec reissue - worth getting...?

[<stanitarium@earthlink.net>]

what he said.
stanthemaninsanfran(longtime abuser of the ORIGINAL <EH16secddl>)

> The new EH16 can do that in spades. It's forte is messing with loops in
> realtime shifting pitch, time, basically decontructing things and messing
> with the original loop mangling it beyond recognition.
> 
> My beef (which has been covered before) is you are a slave to the pedal 
>in
> timing. The pedal requires you to set a specific length and then play the
> loop starting and stopping accorind to the setting. You cannot simply
> <step on> and start the loop and the <step on> and stop it. This is not
> only non intuitive but has made the pedal excruciating for me to use. To
> "help" you know when to start stop your playing there is a series of tiny
> blinking lights and an inaudible "click" that doesn't even have a
> separate out (like in the original) so you at least run that to
> headphones or a mixer and make it usable.
> 
> I almost regret buying it at this point. It certainly is NOT essential by
> any means. It's only salvation that I can se if using it via midi and
> having a drum machine be the click track so you can at leave HEAR that. 
>It
> still is ass backwards making the player slave to the tool rather than
> allowing one to freely play and catch what you want on the fly. Truly an
> idiotic move on the part of EH IMO.
> 
> I do enjoying having it run amok as a delay and creating freaknoise but
> there are cheaper delays that are much more friendly. As a looper it's
> failed for me and I still use my simple DL4 which easily does loop,
> reverse, and 1/2 time and lets me PLAY and create.
> 
> I'm sure others have different opinions and with some practice you might
> get used to it's ways. The timing thing is such a deal breaker for me I
> just want to warn any other improve and free form artists to seriously
> consider and try it out in person first. I bought into the hype and
> marketing (plus I had been wanting one for 20 years) and the bottom line
> is this is NOT a reissue at all but a very new product that does 
>different
> things. YMMV.