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I saw them live a couple of years ago, and it was really great stuff. Scott Amendola (drums) was looping a little with a digitech delay and a kaoss pad, Nels was being Nels with his eh16sec delay, and jhno was dropping great stuff in with his laptop. If I recall correctly, there was a bass player, Todd Sickafoose. They also had a wonderful visual video artist doing live improvised abstract video. She just had a DV cam and a whole playground of lights and objects which she filmed in creative ways in response to the music - no processing whatsoever. Really awesome! I would highly recomend seeing these guys live if you get the chance, I know they tour the US somewhat. Also, if you come across any recordings by jhno, I highly recomend him as well. Jon > 4) The newest release on the c74 music label is Proceed, a live >recording > by CRATER, a band featuring jhno using radiaL, Scott Amendola on drums, > and Nels Cline on guitar. We invite you to check out the MP3