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RE: Alesis Akira/Grip and Sub-Bass (was RE: Ineko for sale?)

I haven't check out the Grip, but I think I'm finally getting the
sub-bass on the Akira under controll.   I'm using the Behringer line
mixer/splitter now to split the AUX out of my Mackie, then I come back
to the board with four of my stereo effects, including the Akira. I
tweaked the low end EQ and trim settings of the Akira channel so it
redlines less. I still might put a limiter on it, though...if I get
excited and pluck a low guitar string too hard...red lines go on
everywhere.  

I love the sub-bass patch on the Akira, however....it is so much
different than a traditional octave effect....very smooth, deep, and
non-descript.  It's kind of hard to tell whether it is dropping an
octave or two lower.  The Akira does have some decent control of the
effect in its parameters as well: sub-base level (like mix), multi-band
limiter threshold (adds sustain), and low cut (determines which
frequency to add the sub-bass effect)

Kris



-----Original Message-----
From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:36 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Alesis Akira/Grip and Sub-Bass (was RE: Ineko for sale?)


At 08:43 AM 2/8/2005, Krispen Hartung wrote:
>Speaking of sub-sonics, the Akira has a sub-bass patch that I use for 
>bass simulation....but is is savage and almost impossible to controll. 
>If I put it before any effect, it redlines it, if I put it after, it 
>redlines the board, just by applying the super low frequencies.  It is 
>a wonderful sound, and the last I used it live, I was able to really 
>move the earth, even with my acoustic guitar.  Basically, I'm going to 
>dedicate one of my compressors just to the output of this unit.

Krispen,

Have you looked at the Alesis Grip?  I haven't played with one myself,
but 
in looking through the manual it seems to be a dedicated unit built
solely 
around the same sub-bass algorithm as the Akira.  It does have quite a
bit 
more controllability, however.  Might be worth checking out if you're
not 
so crazy about dedicating your Akira plus one of your compressors solely
to 
managing your bass frequencies.

         --m.

_____
"i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back"
                                                 -recoil