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> Certainly, all the ideas to end ambient loops that people have mentioned > are > valid and work. I've used many of them. How about recording the entire thing as a loop and play it back in reverse when you get to the end... that'd make the RC20 come in handy with 16 min of sample time. ;) I just ordered one of those, we'll see how it goes. All the discussion about the DD20 almost makes me wish I'd gotten that instead. Ah well, might have to just get both. Gear lust never ends. Tony