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> Doesn't anyone ever just stop'em cold? You know the old fashioned >1,2,3,stop. this tells me: you have enough of it - is that what you want to say? I dont think its a technical problem its rather about your understanding of the energies you are controling with the music often you dont want the good mood to stop, so you pretend that song goes on forever and fading out seems to be the only way to say that. to increase reverb is great because it means that the song goes on elswhere (since were you are, the next one starts) if you end the show by only fading out there is a risk that listeners do a car crash afterwards. So usually I let the deep piece fade away but play some simple clean slightly animating chords with little reverb to make the listeners come back to this world. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org