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As a car freak *and* a musician, I feel that car exhaust can be just as harmonically complex as a more traditional instrument. When Mazda was developing the first-gen Miata, they had a guy listening day-in/day-out to tapes of classic sports cars, trying to understand the desired overtones so that his cowokers could then approximate them. They had that much respect for the sound. I, for one, am impressed. In fact, a few years ago I saw one of the classic cars they had been studying so feverishly, an Austin Healey, blasting down Rte 128, and I rolled down my window to hear the music. It sounded like the wonderful 15th-fret harmonic chord that Robbie Krieger used to start the Doors' "L.A. Woman." Unbelievable. Yours in Sound, Tim Mungenast www.mungenast.com > [Original Message] > From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 2/26/2005 2:05:52 PM > Subject: Re: Who out there has the knowledge to design/build this looper? > > At 10:03 AM +0100 2/26/05, Chuck Scholtz wrote: > > >Two things we want everyone to know. > > > >First, we researched the existing availability of products as well > >as doing a patent search, but we couldn't locate an existing patent > >for the project that we have envisioned. > > >Second, the "music" in an exhaust system is much less complex than > >in actual musical instruments, accordingly our quality expectations > >and specifications are minimal for our product application. Due to > >the higher costs and skills required in using a Physical Modeling > >(PM) approach, we are looking to handle this project with a less > >expensive FM Wavetable synthesis strategy. > > It may well be that products based on the technology I mentioned have > not yet hit market, but as of 2000 the physical modeling techniques > for car engine simulation were functional and ready for licensing. > The company has since been acquired by a major chip manufacturer, and > I expect that car engines are low on their priority list. > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com >