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While we're on the subject of surround, is anyone aware of a VST plugin, preferably cheap, that does 5.1 panning? I don't need a 5.1 encoder, just something that takes a mono or stereo signal and distributes it among 6 mono outputs. Something that supports automation would be very cool. Waves looks like it has one but it's expensive and TDM only. I'm giving the VST version of Mobius the ability to route each track to an individual VST output port. This plus 6 instances of a panner and a 6 output audio interface should give you the ability to setup loops in surround, no? Thanks, Jeff