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My experience has been that the "live looping" aspect doesn't really matter to venues when you're pitching a show. You go to the booking agent and say "I play music, and I'd like to play here with a few of my buddies and people will come see us--whaddayasay?" And they'll either say "Okay!" or "What do you guys sound like?" at which point you give them a CD. If the style of your music is somewhat left-of-center, as is much of the music made by people on Looper's Delight (that is not a criticism), then that's going to be the obstacle you have to overcome when looking for gigs, not whether you're dependent on quantised cycle multiplication. And I say that as someone who could not play a solo gig if my EDP went on the fritz that night. I sell a few CDs at every show and the only question people ask is "Does the CD sound like what I just heard?" which is a curious reversal from the usual "Can you pull the CD off live?" The technology used to make the music is of minimal interest to most people who aren't musicians, and the idea of a box that records what you're playing and then lets you play it back right away isn't that exotic these days. Sure, afterwards someone may come up and ask you about what you're doing to "make it sound like that", but only if they liked what you were doing. If your music is unpalatable or uncompelling, the fact that it was or wasn't produced with a looping device doesn't really enter into the equation. Gadgetry is so rampant in music today that unless you're trying to play in a hardcore folk venue, I don't think anyone raises an eyebrow. Rick has been an advocate of promoting these events as "live looping", and if it helps, then do it, but I'd hate for someone trying to find somewhere to play to think that they have to find a "live looping" venue instead of just a venue open to their music. On Apr 9, 2005 2:15 AM, loop.pool <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > > Having been one of the people who has put on a lot of live looping shows >in > the Bay Area > I wanted to share with you that everyone of these gigs was chiseled out >of > stone because > there was no such thing as a venue for live looping...............people > didn't know what it was. >