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Also, if you're thinking of getting your feet wet in looping and you don't want to drop a bunch of cash, perhaps consider software? There are a few really good ones out now I hear, though I only have experience with Agustus Loop (for mac OSX) I've used it with Digital Performer 4 with a MOTU 828 as my interface. If you're already doing digital HD recording it might be a good way to start looping cheaply. Mark --- ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: > Carl, > > In a message dated 04/19/05 9:59:34, > RobotFan@aol.com writes: > > > It would be very nice to have stereo, but the Loop > Station seems to be much > > more of a looper (the DD-20 has looping as more of > an afterthought, yes?). > > > I would rephrase it more like this: > > The Loop Station was designed with ONLY basic > looping in mind. It also lacks > the feedback control of a traditional delay so it is > impossible to gradually > fade out old material while still adding new licks. > But, you can also store > loops too (which is pretty darn nice). > > The GigaDelay is designed as a traditional delay > that can do several things, > looping included. Not an afterthough -- just one of > the tricks in it's bag. > What it lacks is the long delay time of the > Loopstation and its loop storeage > abilities mostly. > > Neither device was a total design success in my > opinion. The lack of feedback > control on the former was an unforgiveable mistake > and a real disapointment. > I owned an RC-20 and traded it in on my first DD-20 > withing a very short > period. Also, the stunted maximum delay time (at an > indivisible prime number of 23 > seconds) of the later was an assinine blunder at > best. If it was only a second > longer at 24 it could at least be evenly divisible > by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 8 > allowing easier setup of multiple layers of short > and long loops. I'l explain . . > . > > The one really neat trick of the DD-20 is it's > ability to set up one delay in > a preset bank (say one second at 98% feedback) and > another (at say at sixteen > seconds with 100% feedback). You can start playing > on the first delay seting > up a rhythmic figure with a one beat-per-second pace > and when you step/switch > to the next bank with the longer delay (we're still > talking about just one > DD-20 mind you) the shorter delay KEEPS repeating > what was last played into it > just as long as the feedback will allow it to go. > This shorter delay can act as > a rhythmic guide to set up a sixteen beat (4/4, > four-bar) phrase in the second > longer delay. Get it? Plus, you don't have to stick > with even numbers. You > can do it in fives or threes or sevens -- you just > have to do the math and hope > that the rather limited digital readout will do > enough decimals. > > The DD-20 has five memory banks/slots that you can > store delay settings to > and step/switch through in series. This is pretty > darn cool if you ask me. It > will also do tap-tempo stuff if you don't want to > play to a numerically preset > delay time. It's just a little harder to make it all > work with multiple pedals > if you do though. Another caveat: the manual was a > little hard for me to > figure out at first. I had no end of grief trying to > figure it out. > > Best regards, > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > "Different is not always better, but better is > always different" > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: > Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, > Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, > Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, > Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. > So??? > > "Just because nobody understands you doesn't mean > you're an artist." >