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At 6:43 PM +0200 4/24/05, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >There is no guarantee that someone will be able to follow an auditory >cue, either, even if they have some prior experience ;-) > >(call this: "professional experience gathered by a(ny) bandleader") > > I have yet to meet anyone who can reliably follow a visual click (as opposed to a conductor). If you want to have a drum track that can be used with looped or sequenced tracks, the drummer has to lock in really tightly with the click. If the drummer doesn't like using a click, try giving him a loop that is at the tempo you want. It's much easier than playing to a straight click, much more reliable than a visual click and can add an element of groove and feel that a straight click doesn't have. Edwin I have also met a number of conductors who don't have an ability to provide a visual cue! I played at Fiddler's Green here in Denver with an orchestra playing some hits of the 60s. It was a rhythm section with orchestra. We, as a rhythm section, had played a lot together, so we knew how to hit a groove quickly. However, throwing the conductor into the mix was a nightmare as he had no sense of how to convey a solid tempo. I guess the orchestra was used to working out their own tempo and had gotten used to it. Any decent conductor should be able to define the tempo simply with the pickup. I have worked with good ones and they leave no doubt as to where the tempo is. -- Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin http://www.cafemontalban.com Location Recording Services