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EDP On the EDP you can set LOOP/DELAY to INPUT so the pedal plugged in the FEEDBACK socket then controls the input to the loop. Hit RECORD with the pedal at minimum, swell up into the loop (remembering the time display you started swelling up and when you reached maximum). Exit RECORD with OVERDUB and swell back down again over the join. You could also try FLIP mode which appeared in Loop IV. VF-1 I set up something similar my VF-1s before Loop IV came out where have have the input to a delay and the feedback on the same MIDI controller in opposite directions. You can do something similar with the Lexicon MPX100. The ADJUST knob can be MIDI controlled. Both the VF-1 and MPX100 will gradually degrade the loop over time but this can be a good thing because it encourages me to pay a little attention to it and keep it evolving. Jeremy http://www.masse.org.uk