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The DD-20 settings I {Ted} usually use are fairly simple: (1) 625ms (or sometimes 1250ms) @ 95% to 99% feedback (2) 2.5 seconds @ 95% to 100% feedback (3) 5 seconds @ 100% feedback (4) 10 seconds @ 100% feedback (5) 20 seconds @ 90% feedback I sometimes vary it by putting the 5, 10 and 20 second loops in slots 2, 3 and 4 and put another 5 second loop in reverse mode in slot 5 that fades out fairly quickly (a nice way to end or signal a major transition in a piece. I never worked much with the tap-tempo mode on the DD-20. I suppose there's a way to set up loops that are multiples of a basic length that way too. I just never got around to it. --->My other post had to do with the phrase "beg the question". It doesn't mean what a lot of people think. It DOES have to do with circular logic. Nit picking aside, thanks to all for their insight and information. Gary PS I am SOOO close to buying a DD-20, but I hate to have to sell my DL-4 to do it. Cash flow a problem--but the time will come! G