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Pretty cool, Rainer. It would be fun to setup a surround sound, live system one day. I would probably buy two wireless speakers and put them in the back of the room. I too have the creative labs surround capability on my soundcard. Can you explain what surround effect you are using? Are you taking advantage of the other set of stereo images and running different signals/effects to them, or just running a dual stereo system? For instance, how would you setup a four way ping pong delay? Kris -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 1:52 PM To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: surround looping revisited It's done! Today, I set up my first surround looping setup, based on some of the valuable opinions in this forum. About the setup: Hardware: PC w/ ADAT Interface Behringer ADA8000 ADAT I/O (8 Mic/Line Ins, 8 Outs) Creative Labs pseudo-surround speaker setup :-) various (4) mikes (AT, SP, Beyer) Software: AudioMulch Ellotronix looper (2) various AcousModules BuzzComp (4) (as kind of automatic gain control) And the following two axioms: (1) No feedback internal to the electronic setup (i.e. only feedback speaker -> microphone) (2) No signals fed from inputs to outputs which aren't run through the delay lines Short description: a 21st century interactive Alvin Lucier setup! I'm still fine-tuning as well as expanding this approach, so again here come more questions: * Does anyone know of a (if possible free or cheap) feedback destroyer as a VST plugin? I'm thinking of basically a software version of the Sabine/Shure/Behringer hardware units used for live sound applications. * Is there a nice interface to send ASIO connections via a network connection (without using Steinberg Nuendo that is)? Thanks for your input! Rainer