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> Critics are, by temperment, quite often of the personality style that truly believes music can be objectively good or bad. Bingo! > I had the pleasure to spend the better part of and evening drunkenly debating with a local critic at a party once. I put forth the argument that Madonna was not objectively "better" than Shakespeare. Oh, I agreed that I personally preferred Shakespeare to Madonna. But I understood that that was a personal preference of mine. He finally left angry, unable to logically explain what he felt so deeply to be true: that Shakespeare was objectively "better" than Madonna. You articulated exactly what I was explaining in prior response about saying a piece of music has no tangible melody or no meditative or spiritual fare. Objective fact or personal preference? On the meditative factor, how would one go about proving this to be an objective fact, that it is or isn't for someone. Can't be done; hence why say it in a matter of fact fashion in a review? >> I was him in high school, vigorous in my assertion that Led Zeppelin was the pinnacle and that Kraftwerk could hardly really be called "music". I mean, come on, the computer is playing most of it. >> I'm rambling. I apologize. Haven't had morning coffee yet. Very good and concise rambling, I might add. Joe PS: Frank Zappa: "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read." Not sure exactly how or if that applies to this discussion, but it makes me laugh anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartung, Kris" <kris.hartung@hp.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Why I'm starting to loath news paper music critics Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:32:06 -0600 > > Yeah, then be accused by another reviewer of being deceitful....again, I > will put my faith in the music. I'm going to yield to this sort of crap, > just to address a nit, that the word "live" is in my title, but I didn't > have applause in the mix. That's asinine. > > Shit, I thought my blood pressure was finally down on this and now you > guys are fucking my day up again. Sorry....bad night of sleeplessness > with the twins. s > > Kris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:16 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Why I'm starting to loath news paper music critics > > I believe there was a Mick Karn album that David Torn played on that > opened with a big rock type number (as much as it would be with the > two of them), and they'd added in crowd noise to make it sound like it > was show in the Enormodome. I'd suggest remixing the album and adding > in huge waves of stadium applause from a sound effects CD.... > > On 6/19/05, Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote: > > Kris, > > > > I have to say I really don't understand your displeasure over that > > review. I've just read the review in question and don't see anything > > that can be construed as particularly derogatory or misleading in it. > > After listening to the samples of the CD on SoundClick I'd say the > > review is a quite fair and accurate portrayal of the music - it > sounds, > > to me, pretty much as I would expect from reading the review. I also > > have to admit I rather agree with the reviewer that a CD entitled > "live > > at ... whatever" should indeed have some indication of the live > > 'ambience' including audience response, falling spoons etc. > > > > All in all, I'd be pretty well-chuffed by such a review. Sorry! > > > > -- > > > > Ian Petersen > > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com