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I dunno either...these days, I've been contemplating this music evaluation thing more and more, and I am about to the point to where I'll only make damn certain factual claims about a person's music, or only positive subjective claims. The negative subjective claims are just so painful for my ego, and although I can get on my mean streaks (like what I did with that critic who made pseudo factual claims about my music), I always regret what I say and feel something less than a decent human being....I'll admit it - my feelings get hurt easily despite my thin austere veneer exterior. We used to have a music critic here in Boise who said if he didn't have anything good to day, he wouldn't say anything at all....he wrote some of the most crafty reviews that were insightful and sensitive. And he substantiated his factual claims. It is hard, however....it's a skill that I'll have to work on constantly for the rest of my life. Yes, what you say about the Voice of Authority below is right on the money. It urks me too...seems haughty and indignant. It's a power trip for some critics...the ability to slam and deface a musician in the public eye and get away with it. And I don't know about the rest of you, but it is the non-musicians who sometimes make the most ignorant claims about artists' music. Speaking of musician quotes regarding reviewers....here's one from Fripp: "In our actions we reveal the world in which we live. We speak of what we see, and understand, and know. That is, everything we do is reflective of who and what we are. A musician presents a view from the world in which they live. This provides an opportunity for an audience to look into this world. Similarly a reviewer reviews himself or herself." - Robert Fripp Kris -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:psychle62@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:48 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Why I'm starting to loath news paper music critics --- "Hartung, Kris" <kris.hartung@hp.com> wrote: > I bet you would have been really irked if I had > said): > "The backdrop in the beginning of the song is > decent, but somewhat watered down as if the artist > is attempting to emulate Robert Fripp's Soundscapes, > but unsuccessfully so...and the bass groove that > eventually comes in is tasteful, but too low in the > mix. Not too bad. The song has too much inside > melodic work for this particular genre." I dunno, most of those criticisms would have probably been more accurate* (except for the Fripp part; if I'd been aping a Soundscape, I would have had to do a lot more whooooshing sounds...:)) *Definition of 'accurate': "In accordance with my OWN opinion." But I think what many of us object to most about certain critics is the way they posit themselves as the Voice of Authority, as you point out, using their opinion as a substitute for objectivity and possibly tainting/coloring the experience of listeners who've read their comments. "It MUST be true; I read it in the newspaper." One of my old bands was once reviewed by a critic who complained in a magazine about our vocalist's "phony British accent"; it wasn't until about a year later that we found out that his assessment hinged on ONE misheard word in ONE song. (He thought the word 'glossy' [as in a photographic print surface] was actually 'glassy' pronounced a la Greg Lake...) But a number of people at our shows who'd read the review afterwards made comments like "You know, I'd never noticed that before, but he DOES pronounce some of his words like that!", and he ended up being a bit self-conscious about it. It's one thing if the reviewer is slamming the artist for poor musicianship or shoddily crafted songs, but it's another story altogether if their opinion is informed by ignorance or through (mis)interpretation of things often having little to do with the music itself. > Your juxtaposition point below validates that those > claims which contradict each other are likely > subjective claims about one's emotive response to > your work, rather than a factual claim about the > work itself. Absolutely. The strategy we took by including the bad ones alongside the good ones in the press kit addressed the natural curiosity that controversy stirs up. If the opinions of Critic A and Critic B differ so substantially, there's a natural tendency to want to hear the album/see the band's show to find out for yourself what all the fuss is about. As no less a pundit than Gene Simmons once said (something like): "I don't care WHAT the critics are writing about me. I just care that they ARE writing about me." -t- ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com