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Well Tim, I'm not sure if this counts or not, my entire arsenal of synths consists of the sound engine on my Roland GR30 guitar synth! Half the time I don't use it as a sound source but as a midi note controller, and arpeggiator for my RPTR. When I do use the internal GR30 sounds I make heavy use of the units onboard dsp and envelope follower features to further disguise the crappy sound engine, as well as liberal amounts of other signal processing and plug ins. As far as guitar sounds, lately I've been recording with a mixture of vintage tube amp, and a vox tonelabSE. The vox has gotten me back in to modeling as it sounds incredible and feels incredible, though I still like to have a tube amp in the mix for more dimension. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:psychle62@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Closing the Loop: orchestral instruments>>mellotron>>orchestral instruments SIMULATING mellotron We've discussed in many, many threads in the past the way the appearance of new technology often seems a threat to players of existing instruments. (Synths, samplers, mellotrons, etc.) Here's something I've been enjoying lately: I've been using a hybrid recording setup that includes both digital formats (hard drive, flash and minidisc) AND my old analog eight track. I find that when layering loops of things like flute, cello and voice on analog tape, I'm really enjoying the way the analog signal loss/degradation/noise starts to make the "real deal" instruments sound very mellotronish, especially when juxtaposed with the crisper sound of the direct-to-digital instruments. I know Rick Walker has mentioned building an acoustic drumkit which simulates the timbres of electronica. Is anyone else out there being intentionally anachronistic with their equipment, either using new tech to simulate the sound of old stuff or getting modern tones out of vintage gear? -t- ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com