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I have little experience with nylon string guitar pickups, but depending on some things you may want to look into the McIntyre mic "system" you won't have to make any real modifications to the guitar, assuming you have an endpin jack already on it, this will give you a more natural sound than any piezo, but since it is a mic, placement is important and feedback can be an issue at loud volumes (and "bleeding" can be a factor, of course, depending on how loud you are playing), and another disadvantage is there is no onboard volume and tone control (this may or may not be a factor for you). The Trance Audio Amulet system is the best Acoustic guitar pickup available (you can put into any guitar), IMO. But I've never heard one in a nylon stringed guitar, but they do produce the full range an acoustic guitar can make, thumps, taps, etc... (this is what Michael Hedges used along with a Sunrise, but the Amulet was the most important part)FWIW. A cheaper choice might be the IBeam by LR Baggs. Kris- You posted the ES system literature, which is in another world compared to the Fishman system, and cannot be retrofittable to an acoustic gutiar other than a Taylor. Just for the record. :) The ES system is the best overall pickup on the market IMO, but you do need to have a Taylor and $500+ to get one. -----Original Message----- From: obadia [mailto:obadia@clumsybeats.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:42 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: (acoustic guitar) Website: www.jo-jena.com Kris, do you use an electro-acoustic or piezo? i'm thinking about playing live with ONLY my nylon string guitar and SooperLooper. i'm a bit disappointed with the piezo microphones i tried so far, so i'm wondering... ps: i own a micro-modular, i love it and it's so conveniant to travel with. i haven't reached the limits of this small unit ________________________________________ Stéphane Obadia http://www.clumsybeats.org | > Nice to see you were drawn to the acoustic guitar, J.J. There are a few >of > us on this list here, myself included, who play primary acoustic out >live. > I think it is a wonderful instrument to loop, but also to modify in >terms > of tone. Occasionally, I take out my electric guitar to a gig, but I > always end up going back to the acoustic. It's the tone, the dynamics of > the instrument, the resillance, etc....after 25 years of playing the > electric guitar, I never thought I would hear myself say that the >electric > guitar sounds sterile to me now. It was a strange transformation that > happened to me a few years ago after all that time of not giving the > acoustic a chance, only having a nylon string classical guitar in the > corner of the room that I picked up once in a while. I still use the > electric in the studio though, because it is convenienet to pick up and > play at 3am and not waking anyone up. > > Nord Modular...interesting looking unit: > http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/concept.htm > > Cheers, > > Kris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: johannes hätscher [mailto:haetsche@stud.uni-frankfurt.de] > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:06 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: AW: Website: www.jo-jena.com > > Thank you very much for your kind comments concerning my music. I really > appreciate it! > @Kris Hartung: On 3.1. - "entrance to gresham" I don´t use a slide at >all. > There are several > cubase recorded notes of "d" by the guitar, being played backwards. Then, > a Nord - Modular - "noodle", selfgenerating several d - notes is added. > But I´m using a regular metal slide on "drone II" and "drone III". >"Rhythm > I" was done in a jam with willi kappich, a german tabla player. Here I >fed > my regular t.c. - g - major delay unit with some guitar sounds. Again, a > nord modular self generating patch is heard in the background (it is > actually a granular synthesis - adaption, as it can be found in jim >clarks > advanced book for nord modular users - somewhere online). When it comes >to > looping, I really experimented a lot with the InaGRM "shuffle" Plug - In. > Here, I recorded little harmonic and rhythmic tracks with 3 - 5 >overdubbed > guitars. Then I fed the plug - In with that soundfile. > I recorded the slider movements that worked and added other sounds to it. > Equipment: Fostex D - 80, > Mackie 1202, tc m 300 and lexicon mpx 100, tascam us 224, Pentium II (333 > MHZ!), Strat, Yamaha DG - 20 Midi guitar and then very important: Nord > Modular. Well, I sold this great instruments and bought myself an >acoustic > guitar: I wanna come back to the guitar. Still I´m very much interested >in > looping and odd meters. Generally, I - personally! not generally - do not > believe in live electronic. Live I prefer improvising with bandmates > (regularly, jazz - wise). I prefer jamming with others in a studio > environment (with lots of techniques), but the useable structures in my > work were at about 10 Percent of the Material. > In traditional Improvisation, it is even more. And when composing (I lack > the skills, to be honest) I believe in 100 Percent. Accidents and > spontaneous inventions are interesting, but you never know, when it >comes, > and this is not, what an audience payed the price for (to play "hazard"). > > J.J. > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Hartung, Kris [mailto:kris.hartung@hp.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 11:45 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: RE: Website: www.jo-jena.com > > > I'm listenign to Nr.3 now....very captivating and intriguing. Nice job, > J.J. Are you using a glass slide on that song? You manage to produce > some tones and a feel that I don't hear too often, not just in looping > music, but in music in general...either because it is 3:36am here in the > US for me, or for other reasons, your music is very calming, yet > thought-mood provoking. > > ...just now getting to Rhythm 'n Drones....beautifully clean guitar on >the > first tune...almost a "jazz" tone. I'll think of your music this >evening > at my gig where I'll be playing the tablas over my guitar loops. I'll be > inventing of some ways on the spot to lay down soundscapes so that I can > set the guitar down, sit on the floor, and solo on the tablas. > > Would you mind telling us what sort of instruments and gear you are >using? > I'm surprised not to see your name at the Loopfestival Zürich. > > I'll be adding you to my favorite loopers list on my website. > > Cheers, > > Kris > www.krispenhartung.com > info@krispenhartung.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:29 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Website: www.jo-jena.com > > Hi Jo, > > That's some fine music you posted. Thanks! Will return many times for >more > listening. It's also cool to see someone using the Creative Commons > licensing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.looproom.com (international) > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) > www.cdbaby.com/perboysen > > > On Jun 29, 2005, at 0:30, johannes hätscher wrote: > >> >> Hi there! >> >> My Name is Jo Jena and I´m a musician from Frankfurt, Germany. >> You can download my guitar music at www.jo-jena.com for free (the >> english text info still has to be edited by a native speaker: but that >> follows soon, sorry for that). Well, I totally fell in love with the >> GRM Shuffle Plug In and my t.c. delay, so on Files like "drone II", >> "Drone III", "drone IV", "Nr.1 - 4" >> (Soundscape Series), "instauration", "rhythm I", "rhythm IV" >> and "heisse Luft" there is really a lot looping! I would be very happy >> to reach more people interested in this topic with my music! >> Thank you very much for your patience! >> >> Sincerly Yours, >> >> J.J. >> >> >> > >