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Thanks for the pointer! I've been beta-testing Live 5 too. Still not much more live looping support, but I love the ability to change loop start, end and move by cycle--all by assignable beat subdivision increments with midi or PC control--and the ability to record those changes to the arrange.. Neil On 7/7/05, Per Boysen <per@boysen.se> wrote: > For those interested in software looping with Ableton Live: There's > an interesting new function in the built-in plug-in Ping-Pong Delay > that freezes the delay into a loop. Unfortunately the longest delay > time is only one bar. Here's a forum thread wishing for longer delay > time: > http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22767 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.looproom.com (international) > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) > www.cdbaby.com/perboysen > > >