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I don't see the Heisenberg influence here at all. It seems like taking Einstein's laws to explain why cars do not drive faster than 55 or 65 mph on American highways... -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 12. August 2005 04:21 An: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Betreff: zen and the fluent music My own intellectual mentor, the late Gregory Bateson, said that because of the inherent binary neurophysiology of the human brain and because of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle that human beings are doomed to create causal maps of reality with our perceptions.