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> you wanna be no. 1 experimenter? You're scaring me, man... > try this, >program your FCB to also send prog change on the button presses. > so the button for "Insert=SUB" also send the prog change for the preset with Quant=8th ..and all the others have prog change for the preset with Quant=OFF >Now, if the FCB1010 sends prog change before noteOn (and I'm pretty sure it does) you're in with a chance that you get exactly what you want without any more buttons used up. >...no guarantees though, I don't know if the EDP will respond as hoped. I may give it a try...although now, it is quicker for me to put some preset program changes in my second bank of my FCB. I can quickly go back and forth between bank 2 to change a preset, and Bank 1 to do my normal note send looping stuff. Heck, using the EDP control panel isn't that painful for changing a preset.. Kris >andy butler >>Kris