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Re: zen and flatulent music (Marsalis Brothers)



A lot of people found Ken Burns' Jazz series to be rather upsetting.

Almost no mention of the free jazz movement.  No mention of Sun Ra. 
Making fun of Miles' electric period -- that was the worst for me. 
And the obsession with Louis Armstrong -- who was a brilliant jazz
musician, one of the very best, but was mentioned in every episode,
surely we could have had a little more diversity...?

To me, the Marsallis bros. symbolize the worst part of jazz...
mannered, polite jazz that's taught as a formal method in schools. 
feh.

On 7/17/05, Hartung, Kris <kris.hartung@hp.com> wrote:
>  
> I'm certain it was Bradford, because I remember being surprised that he 
>said
> it....with his more diverse background than Winton, playing with Sting, 
>the
> Grateful Dead, and other styles of music besides classical forms. 
>Although,
> I can imagine Winton thinking this, but not saying it...he comes across 
>to
> me as being far too "tight" and proper. :)   Musical necrophilliac...I 
>love
> that term!  I used to call Winton and others like him jazz curators, but 
>I
> like your friend's term better. "Jazz Necrophilliac" could be even more
> accurate, I suppose. 
>   
> Kris 
>  
>  
>  ________________________________
>  From: ArsOcarina@aol.com [mailto:ArsOcarina@aol.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:02 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: zen and flatulent music (Marsalis Brothers)
> 
>  
> Kris,
> 
> In a message dated 7/16/05 10:41:56 AM, kris.hartung@hp.com writes:
> 
>  
> Tangential comment...I thought it was interesting when on public TV,
> Bradford Marsalis called Cecil Taylor's work self indulgent bullshit....
> just goes to show how a very accomplished musician who is very 
> adept at jazz and improvisation can be completely indifferent to a
> form of free jazz on the far end of the spectrum. Sort of funny that he
> said that on TV, that history of jazz series program that came out on
> DVD and VHS.
> 
> I thought that was Winton, not Branford. Oh well. While I've mildly 
> enjoyed some of the Marsalis brothers' stuff from time to time, Winton 
> is a much better classical player than a jazz player IMOHO. He's got
> amazing technique but is a bit bloodless for my taste -- and a bit 
> of a "jazz nazi" on top of that. A prominent music critic friend 
> of mine refered to him as a "musical necrophilliac" in print once.
> The Marsalis brothers seem to make a habit of dissing their betters.
> A trait that does not endear them to some folks.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> tEd (r) kiLLiAn
> 
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> 
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-- 
     /t

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