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Here's some comic (?) relieve for the "diatonic-chromatic-noise paradigm" thread and some indication that I'm not a complete insensitive, cold bastard when it comes to soothing listeners. Occasionally, when I feel I've tortured my audience long enough with my self-indulgent experiments of sound and harmony, I provide them a reprieve with this simple tear-jerker tune....let's call it my "pretty song": http://box.net/public/khartung/files/298935.html Watch out for the clam (non-intentional avoid note) that I coughed up at 2 minutes, 186 milliseconds....that one about killed me. ;) This is a basic jazz original of mine in E minor, with a B section that is two dominant whole step descending ii-V progressions, and a minor ii-V progression that resolves back to E. It's looping at its most basic with some Udu and cymbals for percussion. More of this live stuff, recently posted to my web: http://www.boisemusicians.com/hartung&miresse (click on "Listen to New Live Soundclips") Cheers, Kris >Kris Hartung wrote: "Because I've grown weary of pretty....I've played diatonically for the last 25 years as a guitarist.... part diatonic blended with "outside" in the last 5, and now I'm pretty much thinking chromatically when I improv....no key. It's just a personal quirk of mine at this point in the game. Who knows, maybe in another 5 years, I'll be playing noise. :)