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Have you considered using something like the Yamaha DD50 pads? It'll send MIDI and you can hit it with sticks. ;) I'm not much of a drummer (well, not a drummer at all) but I set up Sonar to record my flailings and then edit it (quantize is my friend.) Then I can send the MIDI to whatever I want (Soundfonts, Alesis, various synths, VSTi, etc) btw. The guy who wrote HammerHead/Moonfish/Tuareg is working on a drum/vsti/sample sequencer called Tunafish that's in beta right now. It looks very very cool for doing drum loops, etc. I know Rick's a big Tuareg fan. :) preliminary look at the docs - http://www.brambos.com/usingtunafish.zip Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Drum-machine song construction tips? > I've not tried the MPC1000, but I've heard of it's > greatness. I actually really like the much cheaper > Korg ESX-1, even though it has no "pads" to speak of > like the MPC1000. For that I can easily use my MIDI > keyboard. > > I should look into getting some samples for it though. > Linn drum sounds... mmmmm. I'm hoping to eventually > get it so that there's not a single traditional drum > sound on it and use the copious E-MU library for those > sounds. > > Mark > > --- "L. Angulo" <labalou2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> No doubt computers are more flexible,but have u >> tried >> the mpc1000?i love the feel of its pads, it syncs >> great to the EDP,and usb transfer is wonderful,you >> can >> also go to their web and download all the classic >> drum >> machine sounds like the linn drum,Acetone and all >> the >> vintage obscure beat boxes!i just wish they would >> have >> given it more memory...but i have to get a dedicated >> midi foot controller for it to mess with the >> different >> midi functions it offers,track mute,next sequence, >> etc.song mode can be very useful but i dont like to >> be >> following a machine,so track muting and next >> sequence >> seem to be more intuitive live. >> I am curious how bands like Rush,Bowie etc. are >> working nowdays, Peter Gabriel has a buch of laptops >> on stage and he certainly does it very clever! >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> --- mark sottilaro <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi. >> > >> > I've been using drum machines for years, and for >> the >> > last 12 or so I've synced audio loopers (Lexicon >> > JamMan and Electrix Repeater) to them. It's always >> > worked great (and still does) but I think I use my >> > drum machines in a somewhat non traditional way. >> I >> > use either a Korg Electribe ESX-1 or E-MU XL-7 to >> > put >> > together dense loops and then kind of randomly >> > mute/unmute tracks while in song mode. The lack >> of >> > traditional song structure is great for the way I >> > like >> > to improvise. >> > >> > Well, this weekend I decided to put together >> > something >> > with a more "pop" structure and I found the song >> > modes >> > on both the above drum machines to be SO awkward >> > compared to a DAW like Digital Performer or Logic, >> I >> > ended up with nothing. >> > >> > So, am I just spoiled by modern computer >> > sequencing... >> > or am I approaching the drum machine song >> > construction >> > in the wrong way? My idea is to avoid having to >> > bring >> > a laptop to gigs, but if it's going to be so much >> > easier I'll do it. I can get around pretty >> quickly >> > in >> > Digital Performer 4... then I started to think >> "well >> > if I'm bringing a laptop for sequencing, why not >> use >> > it as a sound source as well?" The ESX-1 is a >> > sampler >> > and the XL-7 is a ROMpler so it's not like I'd >> have >> > issues with a laptop not being able to have fast >> > enough processors. >> > >> > So, if there's a song construction tip that you >> can >> > think of, I'd love to hear it. If you've found a >> > better tool that lets one work more intuitively, >> > (the >> > Electribe has a way better interface than the E-MU >> > IMO) I'd like to hear that as well. If song >> > construction in modern drum-machines is just a big >> > pain compared to software, than I guess I'll >> abandon >> > my little cute boxes for my current project. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> >> >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >