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On Jul 29, 2005, at 19:30, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > and you can't (at least in live4) switch effect sends pre/post. :- > ((((( That would indeed be nice to have in Live! But you can achieve that same routing by fetching the input also to a second track and setting that tracks output to "Sends Only" (channel A becomes "post" and channel B becomes "pre"). Live may look like a conventional mixing desk if taken only by the graphic interface, but it's in fact deeper. Audio and MIDI can be routed in almost any direction, especially on a Mac where Live integrates with the OS X built in piping channels for audio and MIDI. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.looproom.com (international) www.boysen.se (Swedish) ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) www.cdbaby.com/perboysen