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For $10 more than the going $150 for the FCB1010, Sweetwater has the MIDIMate. I've been using it for about 3 weeks and have found it completely stable. Others have noted the shortcomings compared to the FCB1010, in particular lack of momentary switches; I also wish it had a MIDI in, and more than 1 expression pedal input. On the plus side, the MIDIMate can transmit on all 16 channels, the FCB does not. If you are soured on the FCB 1010 and want a unit mainly to switch patches on the fly, consider the MIDIMate. After reading these posts and mulling it over, I'm going to stick with mine for the time being. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Bill Edmondson [mailto:edmondson5@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:03 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Behringer FCB 1010 or Digital Music Ground Control? I thought the same - built like a tank. I've had two negative episodes after now very long (brand new unit). 1) the midi in connector, mounted to the motherboard, began 'caving in' toward the inside of the unit. Now I have to maneuver the midi cable just right to be able to insert it. 2) at one of the gigs, I press a fcb1010 footswitch to perform a program change on 2 roland gr-33's. instead of a horn patch, it called up a drum patch! What a mess! I assume that I had pressed a bank up or something by accident. It turns out that the fcb1010 had lost it's marbles for the moment. It was reproducible by selecting a different footswitch and coming back to the problem selection. After resetting the fcb1010, everything was back to normal. I can only suspect that the ram content were corrupted for some reason. Cheap is as cheap does. I've been on the lookout for a replacement ever since and I've decided to enforce a 'no behringer' policy in my studio. Also, it's a complete bear to program. Not a big fan. -----Original Message----- From: S V G [mailto:vsyevolod@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer FCB 1010 or Digital Music Ground Control? Dave, Behringer has been slagged a lot on this list as well as others. Sometimes they really deserve it, as in their budget line of mixers. Some people on this list swear by their higher end mixers, claiming them to be superior to the higher priced Mackie's. This is just to say don't judge a company on only a few of their products. The FCB1010 is built like a tank, it should give many many years of trouble free operation. Just make sure that the pedals are calibrated and that you clear out ALL of the presets that come with it. Also be sure to get the latest EPROM's, you can usually call up the nearest factory outlet in your country and they'll ship you the latest for free. That was my experience anyway. The switches are relatively quiet. Once you get your head around how to program it, it's easy. I was never able or willing to go that far, combined with realizing that it didn't fit my own playing style, so I let mine go. I've never used the Ground Control Pro so I can't weigh in on that unit. If reliability is what you're after, you should be pretty happy with the FCB1010. Stephen > I have been pretty staunchly anti-behringer for > years, I've justified this purchase by saying to myself that at least > I'm not passing audio through it. But I am worried about sturdiness, I > play about 100 gigs a year and need stuff that is reliable and doesn't > break. The good side of the Behringer is that it's almost unbelievably > cheap, and seems to be very flexible as far as MIDI programmability. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs