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Wow, Kid Beyond is an amazing beatbox/vocalist - thanks for the link to the video Simeon - it also looks promising for what I do (which is a very different use of voice) - and certainly what I need to do to acheive my sound/music is Much simpler than what he seems to be doing - so that's encouraging too! ...Now I just need to try to understand what I need for a virtual looping set up etc.! (I'm not very tech saavy). ~jim http://www.spectralvoices.com > http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=artists&sub=kid-beyond > (movies at > the bottom of the page) > > this process differs from the "traditional" way of > looping, (which builds > lots of layers in a single loop) by creating lots of > separate loops > running in parallel which are all synced together. > the advantage of the > ableton way is that you can drop each "layer" in and > out, treat each one > individually with effects, reverse and even stretch > them. the disadvantage > is that you don't get the continuously morphing > effect of old layers > fading away to be replaced with new layers, but you > could simulate this > effect in ableton by using a control surface like a > kenton control freak > to manually adjust the volume of each layer and fade > out the ones you > don't want. using ableton, you can also get over the > latency issue by > monitoring your live input directly if you sudio > interface will allow it. > > hope that helps a bit! > > cheers! > > sim > > > > > Simeon Harris > Textural Guitarist > www.simeonharris.co.uk > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com