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On a vaguely related note, a friend was clearing out his basement and bequeathed unto me a MIDI Octopus from the 1980s. I know so little about it that I'm not sure how to even see if it works or if I should keep it or ebay it. It has a MIDI In and 8 outputs. Do any of you fine citizens know anything about it? Yours in Adrian Belew, Tim > [Original Message] > From: Adrian Bartholomew <adrian@bartholomusic.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 9/18/2005 11:16:54 AM > Subject: Re: Programming Rocktron All Access - HELP!!!! > > i stand corrected > ___ > Adrian Bartholomew > Leawood KS > On Sep 17, 2005, at 8:56 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > > > It can send CC's along with PC's, but it can't send on/off CC's in a > > "momentary" fashion. Therefore, you can't use CC's to control the > > basic EDP functions with the FCB1010. > > > > Dig > > > > Adrian Bartholomew wrote: > > > >> kim, i may be wrong here but i believe the 1010 can be set to send > >> cc's automatically once a preset is chosen just like with notes. i > >> remember seeing that. > >> ___* > >> Adrian Bartholomew > >> *Leawood KS > >> On Sep 17, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Kim Flint wrote: > >> > >> At 08:18 AM 9/17/2005, Craig Mitchell wrote: > >> > >> How are people programming the All Access? Are you using > >> Control Numbers via Instant Access switches? Or are you using > >> Note ON/OFF via the Custom settings for presets? > >> > >> > >> I'm pretty sure the All Access has the flexibility to be set up to > >> use either. The FCB1010 can only control the echoplex using notes. > >> (sorry I don't use an All Access so I don't know the programming > >> steps.) > >> > >> > >> With the Echoplexes set to 'Controlsource=CNTR' I have been > >> using the Instant Access switches to trigger various > >> functions. > >> > >> Record - This works but sometimes when I press the button it > >> starts recording a clears right away. A second press gets it > >> recording properly and I can loop. > >> > >> > >> I think I see your problem. The Echoplex wants to see a midi > >> command for both the pressing of the button AND the release of the > >> button. This is how it can tell if you are doing a short press or > >> a long press. It sounds like your controller is not sending the > >> "off" message when you release the button. > >> > >> If you are using Notes, this means the midi controller sends a > >> NoteOn message when you press the button, and the corresponding > >> NoteOff message when you release the button. (like the way a midi > >> keyboard would do it.) > >> > >> If you are using Continuous Controller messages, the controller > >> should send the appropriate controller number with a positive > >> value (like 64 or something) when you press the button. Then when > >> you release the button, it should send the same controller with > >> value 0. > >> > >> Usually this means programming the midi controller to treat its > >> buttons as Momentary. It sounds like you might have the in > >> Latching mode. (where the first press sends the On, and the second > >> press sends the off) > >> > >> > >> Can one replicate the Echoplex pedalboard function of holding > >> down the record button and clearing the loop with the All > >> Access via midi? > >> > >> > >> yes, definitely! that's the idea of using the on/off concept. > >> That's the only way with midi to communicate that you are holding > >> a button down (sustained) or releasing it quickly. This allows the > >> Echoplex to get more functions out of less buttons. Otherwise > >> there would have to be lots of extra buttons to control even the > >> basic features of the echoplex, which would be awkward to use and > >> take up too much space. > >> > >> Hope this helps, > >> kim > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > >> kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > >> > >