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Pre 9/11, I always took my Ovation shallow body in a soft case on board all flights, across the great pond or puddle jumping. I never seemed to have difficulty getting it in an overhead compartment either. Never had to sweet talk the stewardess (well, not to get the guitar onboard anyway...) or ask to get on the flight early. Haven't flown with it since 9/11 Only one snafu, when flying from Germany to Seattle, via DC to New York. The DC to JFK jump was in a small propeller plane. As we were walking across the tarmac to board the plane, one of the ground crew stopped me and said, "there's no room for anything like that on board." I just looked at him and confidently said "I do it all the time." When I got on board, I found out that he was totally correct, the overhead bins were large enough to fit your sack lunch and not much more. On one side of the aisle, there were two seats and on the other side, one. I chose one of the single seats, put my guitar between me and the window, covered myself with a blanket and spread out a large magazine to cover the fact that there was a guitar head getting comfy with my armpit. To this day I'll never know if they were aware of it and just let it pass... That being said, being nice and friendly with people goes a long way. When in Rome at the airport heading back to the US, the nice man at the airline counter asked me where I would like to sit. Without hesitating I asked for a seat next to a beautiful young woman, preferably Italian. "Okay sir, we'll see what we can do for you... (checking his computer screen) hmm... 1976... is that too young for you sir? "No" I replied. "Well I'm sorry to say that the only remaining available seat next to a beautiful young woman is in business class, will that be okay for you sir?" Instant upgrade. Except that she wasn't Italian... Stephen __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com