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Routing the efx through the repeaters little mixer is also a lot of fun,actually you dont really need a mixer!you can record 4 tracks and program your midi foot controller to send efx to whichever channel you like.I do this using my mo-fx and EQ killer and then play with their tap buttons, knobs etc. then you can pitch shift the loops speed them up, cut them up,mute them,fade them in or out individually,etc.some of the specs are Footswitch control for the main functions,MIDI Inputs, Stereo 1/4" and RCA with phono preamp,Outputs Stereo 1/4", RCA and S/PDIF, FX Send/Return Stereo 1/4",CF loop Storage,i mean what else do you need! If this baby gets an intelligent upgrade is just going to turn into a monster! but i still find the EDP more friendly in terms of composing live,the rPīter still has this live multitracking feel to it,for me it probably has to do with the fact that it has a small delay when you tap on the record button and the other little buggies... cheers Luis --- "Hartung, Kris" <kris.hartung@hp.com> wrote: > Wow, did anyone else get 15 copies of Stephen's > response in their > inbox? No big deal. See my comment belwo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: S V G [mailto:vsyevolod@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:55 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Looping in Stereo > > > Yes Kris, the Repeater loops either 4 mono > loops, 2 stereo loops, > or 2 mono with 1 stereo loop. All simultaneous > loops are by necessity > all the same length. Maximum loop time is 8 > minutes, regardless of the > size of the CFC card. > > Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea. This seems > to open up some > interesting possibilities. I'll have to get online > and read more about > the specs. > > > Having the ability to do stereo loops, I find > myself consistently > looping mono and "stereoizing" the loops after the > Repeater. > > I did this initially, but I find it restricting. It > basically doesn't > allow you to record a unique set of effects with > each loop. I couldn't > justify the point have spending thousands of dollars > on stereo effect if > I couldn't actually reflect them uniquely in each > sequential loop. > Otherwise, you stuck using a unique set of effects, > but over all your > prior loops....thus mushing everythign together. > > > For my way of working, this is a far more > efficient use of resources. > You have to remember that all aux sends and/or > busses need to process in > stereo, and the resources of your mixer come under > the gun. > > Yes, I am aware of this and it is to my advantage, I > have the Mackie > 1642VLX and I use only busses 1 and 2 to generate > stereo looping with > any of the 16 channels on the board. Basically, my > signal chain is one > of the following, depending on whether I'm looping > just guitar or guitar > with vocals, percussion, etc: > > 1) JUST GUITAR: Guitar - Boss VF1 - Computer (with > VST effects) - two > EDPs - Mackie 1202VLZ - out in stereo to powered PA > speakers > 2) GUITAR and OTHER INSTRUMENTS: > Guitar/Percussion/Vocals/ETC - Mackie > 1642VLS - out in stereo to powered PA Speakers > a) Buss Configuration: Out of busses 1 and 2 to > stereo ins of > EDPs - out of EDPs to two mixer channels in stereo > > In 2) I am able to press a single button on any of > the 14 channels (2 > being the input for the EDPs) and pop them in out > out of my stereo EDP > mix...all true stereo and a unique set of effects > with each loop > sequence. I get CD quality results each time. I > can't think of a better > setup for myself. I'm in true stereo, I can loop 14 > instruments, and I'm > not using my AUX channels. I use one Aux channel for > my Lexicon LXP1 to > apply a nice reverb on the entire mix. Looping > reverb is > attrocioius....it doesn't capture the decays if you > are using delicate > input levels. > > > As an example of my signal flow, I send all > instruments (myself and > others) through a Mackie > 1604 (16 channel, 4 buss, 6 aux sends). This gives > me 8 stereo inputs. > One of the aux sends feeds the Repeater (which is > "dry muted", not > passing the original signal). The Repeater then > comes back into the > mixer and is routed to the other FX via a buss or > another aux send, > which lend a stereo field to the otherwise mono > sound. If I want to > send a stereo signal to the Repeater, the mixer > allows me to do that > easily, though at the cost of another aux send and > input channel. > > Yep, I've done this before. I use the busses and > buttons because then I > can take instrumetns in out and out my EDP mix > without turnig those AUX > nobs on each channel, which would be ridiculous. I > simply press the 1-2 > or 3-4 buss button on the channels. Very simple and > easy. > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > www.luis-angulo.com __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com