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very true never believed it but Behringer does have some pro products;-)the FCB1010 has proven to be reliable, and recently i was so impressed with the sound and price that i just bought their Vintager AC112 tube amp for 280.-eur which sounds incredible and a lot better than a lot of expensive boutique tube amps out there! (P.S.just dont use its integrated effects) Luis > > > Just have been searching at a local music store's > website for the word > > "pro". 1544 hits. Some examples: > > > > * lots of Behringer stuff (I think all the > rackmount ones) > > * a few Line6 products (the rackmount ones) > > * a few Mackie mixers > > * software (e.g. Logic Pro, Acid Pro) > > * different headphones (Sennheiser, Beyer, > Stanton) > > * turntable pickubs by Ortofon > > * a lowprice company named SM Pro Audio > > * a drumstick company named Pro Mark > > * a supercheap guitar pseudobrand named Pro Arte > > * a few products by Focusrite > > * a few products by K&M (stands) > > * amps by Ampeg > > * guitars by BC Rich > > * a cheap mike by Audio Technika > > * JBL speakers > > * a Furman power conditioner > > * speakers by Eminence > > * interfaces by Marian > > * entertainer keyboards by Korg > > * a few preamps by Fishman > > * PA cabinets by Dynacord > > * Vestax, Numark and Allen&Heath DJ mixers > > * a cheap €3k upright > > * DiMarzio, EMG, Seymour Duncan pickups > > * harmonicas by Hohner > > * stuff by Presonus > > * cheap speakers by Edirol > > * some in-ear phones by Ultimate Ears > > > > Summary: for some companies, "pro" means > "rackmount" - I think Behringer > > took the hint from Line6. For software, "Pro" > means the same program > > with more features. Higher quality? I don't think > so. For many > > companies, "pro" means targeted at DJs (see > Allen&Heath, Sennheiser and > > Beyerdynamic). for some companies, "pro" means > "cheap stuff with lots of > > features" (see Focusrite - they have some pro gear > all right, but it's > > not called "pro"). For Ampeg, similar to the > software companies, it > > seems to mean "lots of features". > > > > So we're as wise as before: Some companies never > call their products > > "pro", with these, you have a good chance to get > pro gear (ever seen a > > Rosetta Pro or SLAM Pro or GML 9500 Pro?). With > all the others, you > > never know... > > > > Rainer > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: stanitarium@earthlink.net > [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net] > > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Oktober 2005 07:18 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Betreff: Re: Defining "pro" > > > > > > i think i saved this from the loopersdelight > archive-but dont have the > > poster's name: quote..."'Amateur' tradionally > meant "one who does > > something for the love of it" (from the Latin > amator-amatus:lover-to > > love) as opposed to the secular meaning of > 'professional' as "one who > > does something for gain." the term "professional" > has become so debased > > that whenever i see a product named w/ the prefix > "pro" i automatically > > assume it is inferior."...unquote > > > > dont know who wrote it, but its cool w/ me. > > s > > > >> Someone once told me... > >> > >> "A professional does for money what an amateur > does for the love of > >> it." > >> > >> Tony > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "sonic steph" <ml@dadaprod.org> > >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:50 PM > >> Subject: Re: Defining "pro" > >> > >> > >>> Per Boysen a écrit : > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I completely agree with Travis' definition of > "pro". A funny > >>>> definition of amateur is one who calls himself > "pro" even though he > >>>> isn't able to make a living of his music. > >>> > >>> I guess it is not funny at all, but making a > living of music sounds > >>> completely elitist.. As this is only possible if > only few people > >>> produce music.. the disc industry make people > think that very few > >>> people are really talented, which is obviously > wrong, regarded to all > > > >>> the stuff you can hear on the net, on the metro > or wherever you > >>> listen to non commercial music.. so a pro to be > pro sounds to me more > > > >>> like a capitalistic bahaviour than a musical > one.. > >>> > >>> bye > >>> > >>> stephane > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > ___________________________________________________________ > >>> Musique, vidéo, radio indépendante (boycottez > les majors!) > >>> ----------------------- > >>> http://www.dadaprod.org > >>> > ___________________________________________________________ > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.luis-angulo.com __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/