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> A lot of the "buzz" around Mobius is that it is based on the EDP. > In effect you are using the EDP name to promote your software. Yeah, I can see that. I'm in an awkward position. Either I'm a deceptive charlatan by not mentioning the EDP and implying I invented all of this, or I'm an opportunistic leach riding on the coattails of greatness :-) Somewhere in between lies balance. It may be helpful to know that my goal here is not to copy the EDP. Architecturally Mobius is more like a multi-track sequencer with a large built-in looping plugin. Over half the code has nothing to do with looping per se. I am attempting to build a general purpose sound processing "engine" that can be "scripted" to build applications. Roughly similar to Max/MSP or Synthedit, only with a bias toward live looping. I thought the EDP would be a good place to start learning what that would take. In hindsight, the EDP bias has probably lost me more users than I have. There are lots of people that have difficulty with its....statistical density. A year from now it may start looking more like Ableton Live, giving me a whole new audience of developers to annoy :-) At that point I will start de-emphasizing the EDP heritage. EDP-style looping will be just one of the "modules" you can load into the engine. Who knows, I may never get there, but I enjoy trying. Jeff