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Thanks guys just one more question. All I will ever want is to have 3 sooper loopers That record to the same loop length. i.e. I hit record on one sooper looper then when I record on sooper looper 2 and 3 they always default to the same loop length, I don't want any other parameters quantised at all just the loop length of each sooper looper to be the same, but I would like to do this by setting this with the first sooper looper in realtime i.e. start playing hit record hit record again and hey presto all my looping in any super looper will now have that loop length. not sure if thats clear. I have read the sync documentation but am still confused as to how to do this. When I had two edps it used to drive me nuts trying to get the echoplexs to do this I am hoping sooper looper will be more reliable. cheers geoff On 25 Oct 2005, at 08:55, a k butler wrote: > >> What are peoples feelings on hosting this software plug-in. > > Plogue Bidule > > www.plogue.com > > a very efficient host, > > with multiple syncing options. > > > ..and interestingly it can now function as vst/au within another host. > Wonder what happens if you get it to host itself ?? > > andy butler >