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And so the new buying frenzie will begin....but for those of us who use an "If it ain't broke than don't fix it" approach, then we'll of course be running our frail little 32 bit apps on a 64 bit architecture as long we can and until nothing left in the market that is backwards compatible. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:13 PM Subject: Re: using laptops for music > Say after me....dual-core, sixty-four... It's the wave of the future. > Soon, I will advise not to buy any high-end PC that is not 64-Bit >capable. > It will be like buying NT on the day XP was released. > > Are there (m)any - applications that leverage that power today? The answer > is YES -- but they are currently running on UNIX-boxes. Remember, not so > many years ago, PCs didn't run 32-bit applications, too. > > Check out these charts: > > http://www.zdnet.com.au/shared/images/products/intel_amd_vs8.gif > http://www.passmark.com/cpureview/pics/cpuspeed_mmx_add6.gif > http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel%20pentium%204%20570j_111304101117/5454.png > > David > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: using laptops for music > > > > You must be referrinng to desktops, Kim, right?. I've seen some data as > > well, comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) in mobile processor > > technology, cache, performance, processor speed, etc...and Intel shows in > > the lead. But AMD clearly has the lead in desktops. Also, regarding the > > 64bit stuff...who the heck has 64bit apps to use that technology? Do you? > > Not many > > > > Send me the articles that show that AMD is beating Intil in the mobile > > processor space, showing the specs next to each other, etc. I am really > > curious to see the data, not marketing or analyst fluff. > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kim Flint" <kflint@loopers-delight.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: using laptops for music > > > > > > > At 05:47 AM 10/26/2005, Kris Hartung wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if Apple really wants high performance they'll use AMD > > CPUs. > > > > > > > >You are kidding, right? > > > > > > no, not at all. AMD has been leading Intel in CPU performance and > features > > > for the last couple years. Intel is not expected to even come close >to > > > catching up for at least another year. They completely dropped the ball > in > > > their R&D in the last few years. It's been analyzed to death in all the > > > business papers, engineering technical journals, Microprocessor Report, > > > hardware review sites, etc. Hard to miss that story. > > > > > > Look at any hardware review site. What are the top performance PCs? AMD > > > 64bit cpu with Nvidia Nforce4 SLI chipsets. That's what all the >gamers > > use, > > > and they are the most fanatical about performance. Right now, AMD wipes > > the > > > floor with Intel. And the results for AMD have been good. The >business > > > press just this week was reporting how AMD has had dramatic market share > > > gains against Intel. > > > > > > > Personally, I don't think they stand a chance to keep up with Intel > > > >innovation and their current partnerships, such as (historically), the > > > >Titantium Intel process that was developed in collaboration with HP and > > > >Intel for their UNIX boxes. > > > > > > Itanium is the correct name. That cpu is considered one of the >biggest > > > flops of the last decade. You didn't really mean that as a good example > > did > > > you? Most people call it the "Itanic". > > > > > > anyway, sorry to drag this further off topic. > > > > > > kim > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > > > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > > > > > > > > > > > >