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On Dec 7, 2005, at 2:37 AM, S V G wrote: > Are you a Musician? i think some of these arguments are a bit bass-ackwards. having been doing real-time looping since the early 70's using real tape loops and torturing reel-to-reel recorders almost anything today that loops is a quantum leap forward to me. as a video/sound artist i look for the right tool for the job. my work doesn't necessitate sync-locked looping, i use both hard & software loopers with delight, and incorporate their advantages and flaws into each piece that i do. every piece of gear is inspirational, and new paradigms lead me into new directions. the beauty of the current state of affairs is choice. there is such a plethora of options that no one can reasonably say that the bases aren't covered. being a big fan of max/msp/jitter i spend loads of time tinkering with my patches, customizing them to my particular needs, leaving out the stuff that i don't need. i've been having a lot of fun with a video looper i built - light years away from the collection of mic stands, revox machines and tape i used to use (and still do on occasion, though i love the "tape echo" setting on my dl4.) these are the days. cheers bruce bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Douglas Adams