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perhaps "conscious" in this context means more of a Hegel kind of conscious - after half a second, they start to think about writing a six-hundred-page volume about that specific snare drum hit? -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jeff Larson [mailto:Jeffrey.Larson@Sun.COM] Gesendet: Montag, 12. Dezember 2005 22:21 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Real-time category Ian Petersen wrote: > Actually, closer to 500 ms! Yes, consciousness is a full half second > behind any external (or internal) stimulous. That doesn't mean we can't > react much faster than 500 ms. Obviously, we can. But not consciously. I can believe there is some "consciousness latency" but not 500ms. 500ms is a quarter note at 120 BPM. Give someone a button to press as soon as they hear the sound of a snare drum being played through headphones. I'll bet everyone on this list can do it in under 500ms. What is "not conscious" about that reaction? Jeff