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On Dec 18, 2005, at 18:26, Warren Sirota wrote: > I think 12 buttons, as Per suggests, is right: > the receiving sw can interpret two buttons as bank up/down if it > wishes, and > relabel all the buttons on the fly. Well, the reason I want twelve button is that there are twelve half tone steps on an octave :-) These days almost all my looping activities incorporate pitch transposing. So, maybe I should have wished for fourteen buttons then? But if the "Bank Change" button is virtual and can be addressed by MIDI we may use all twelve physical buttons to play music with. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.looproom.com (international) www.boysen.se (Swedish) ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) www.cdbaby.com/perboysen