RE: gratuitous nostalgia was: re: Looping in prehistory

["William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com>]

Title: Re: gratuitous nostalgia     was:  re: Looping in prehistory

I was at that show too Dude!!! with Alex Acuna on drums, and Manalo Badrena (?) on percussion,  and I can't argue with your documentation (though I'd love to hear it), though I saw him/Them at San Jose Perfoming Arts Center as well, perhaps the following tour,  I had a much better seat, he had a blue face MXR rack delay, and I remember distinctly ,badadabompbomp badadabompbomp  badadabompbomp badadabompbomp ,beap diddle deedee dee debomp  beap diddle deedee dee dee OK? so please don't fog my fuzzy memory, OK?

:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: stanitarium [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:02 PM
To: Loopers-Delight
Subject: Re: gratuitous nostalgia was: re: Looping in prehistory

Bill- wasnt it 180bpm budda budda bambitty bam bam-di dit dit bomp be bomp boop bomp de bomp-er sompin?
i saw the immortal JACO w/ WeatherReport @ Winterland here in the city in 1978 and i made a live tape of it which i'm listening to right now-sounds great!(gotta figure out how to get this to digital someday)
anyway the bass solo is approx 10min.w/ tributes to JIMI andSomewhere o t r, and some Charlie Parker-But NO Looping-so i guess he got that MXR the next year in time for Joni and forever more...
s



on 12/20/05 8:48 PM, William Walker at billwalker@baymoon.com wrote:

If I remember correctly,  Jaco's solo loop piece I saw went something like this:
badadabompbomp badadabompbomp  badadabompbomp badadabompbomp
to which he added:
beap diddle deedee dee debomp
e beap diddle deedee dee dee
After that I'm not so sure  Ha Ha!  but I do remember the finale of him leaping from the top of his Acoustic amp on to his oscillating bass ,yanking the plug from it , and sending it shooting across the stage. I'm still not quite sure if that was intentional or not!  LOL
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel stevenson [mailto:stillllscary@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: gratuitous nostalgia was: re: Looping in prehistory

could that be the green mxr delay pedal?
i spent a whole two weeks pay from the gameroom to get the green pedal & a ev micro synthesizer pedal...cool stuff for the early 80's
very versitile as a noise maker,sweeps of 100 percent regenerations into sirens and windy soundscapes.
it quit working for some reason,but so did i so...go figure
had a power cord like a refridgerator
i loved that green delay
dl4 has the same feel,some day nostalgic...
i like this off topic crap,
                                      drop d "boo"psycic
"loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

from Jaco's biography:
"As Jaco described the effect, "I've got an MXR Digital
Delay, which I put through one amp"


Doh!!!!!! I had remembered it, innacurately as an ADA when, of course, it
was an MXR delay.
I always have a problem remembering the names of those early digital delays
(MXR, Delta Labs, ADA, Korg, etc.)
They were all out of my price range and were state of the art in their day
(and thus, fairly
pricey by a beginning musicians' standards).

I can see that unit clearly though. with it's big blue
faceplate...............I think he was still using Acoustic amps, wasn't
he?

Someone posted a long time ago that they saw me using that MXR rack mount
unit in Union Grove music about that time
using it's piddly but exciting short loop time with a microphone. I was
really into the music of the Ituri
Pygmies who used yodelling techniques and a cool technique where you sing a
note into a shor! t piece of
closed off bamboo (or you can use a small old fashioned ink bottle, as well)
and sing a falsetto note
in between blowing on the bottles.

With that MXR unit (which I went into the store and 'demoed' every day for a
week or so until I wore out my
welcome with the owner) I could make a loop and keep adding onto it,
simulating a whole small tribe of Pygmies.
Wow, was that exciting..............and so outrageously out of my budget to
buy.

****************************
This thread is really kicking off of my memory of those very exciting days
(punk, new wave, electronic music, et. al.)
in the first couple of years of the 1980's. At one point there were 45 all
original new wave bands playing in Santa Cruz
in a half a dozen small venues that featured all original music five to
seven days a week.

I also remember using an Effectron 1024 (a massive 1.024 seconds of sampling
time) made by Delta Labs at the
o! ld Art Centre theatre in Santa Cruz.

I made a vocal loop with it and then increased the speed so much that it
was like a percussion loop, completely
unintelligible for it's speed.......................and used it as the basis
for an improvisation with Tao Electrical,
the group I had with Not Michael (Michael Haumesser) and Jim Rutledge that
was a side project for our more
popular new wave band at the time, Tao Chemical.

At the end of the piece I slowed the Effectron speed down until right at the
last second (literally) you could understand
that the loop said, "It doesn't mean a fucking thing," and then turned it
off, ending the piece.

LOL, that sentence came from an anecdote I heard about where Baba Ram Dass
had climbed high into the Himalya to find
a reclusive spiritual master who lived in a cave up on the mountain. When
he got to the top of this arduous climb he asked the
hermit, "What's the meaning of life" , to! which the hermit replied, "It
doesn't mean a fucking thing".

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