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The distortion + was my first distortion pedal, at various times an echoplex, a green mxr delay unit and later a grey market Maxon rack mount 2 second delay with hold. i think I got the mxr at the same time I bagged the traynor in favor of a polytone mini brute that I took to Berklee. While in Boston, I got to see Bill Frizell with "Tiger's Baku" at Poohs Pub, and The first Pat Metheny Group at some basement club I can't remember the name of. yet more fuzzy memories Bill -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Willers [mailto:a.willers@arcor.de] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:30 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:gratuitous nostalgia was: re: Looping in prehistory from Jaco's biography: "As Jaco described the effect, "I've got an MXR Digital Delay, which I put through one amp" Doh!!!!!! I had remembered it, innacurately as an ADA when, of course, it was an MXR delay. I always have a problem remembering the names of those early digital delays (MXR, Delta Labs, ADA, Korg, etc.) They were all out of my price range and were state of the art in their day (and thus, fairly pricey by a beginning musicians' standards). I can see that unit clearly though. with it's big blue faceplate...............I think he was still using Acoustic amps, wasn't he? Someone posted a long time ago that they saw me using that MXR rack mount unit in Union Grove music about that time using it's piddly but exciting short loop time with a microphone. I was really into the music of the Ituri Pygmies who used yodelling techniques and a cool technique where you sing a note into a short piece of closed off bamboo (or you can use a small old fashioned ink bottle, as well) and sing a falsetto note in between blowing on the bottles. -> Alright, Rick! I rember well lusting for the MXR as well after seeing WR and "demoing" the hell out of it at a music store - it must have had like three or four seconds of delay!? All I could afford was a Distortion+ though, and two days later a Boss CE-2 chorus and a Korg tape echo (not a bad sound!). Andreas