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I think he was talking about compositions made of loops generated by other people. The sort of Lego-brick process you can get with a GarageBand type program which comes with a large library of loops, including pitched instruments playing chord vamps and such. If you don't have a way to generate completely new audio information (i.e. a traditional type instrument), then you're limited to collage-type work of varying complexity. Which isn't to say that approach is invalid, just that it makes harmonic exploration more difficult. TravisH On 12/23/05, daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> wrote: > hard to explore harmony while playing loops? > for such a huge noggin,battino's sure seems empty > i mean what are ya doing but exploring harmony? >