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This has, I am guessing, been working for the whole VG/guitar synth/technology industry for awhile. I am not sure if I believe it. I asked Godin if there were any dealers in my area who had a Multiac SA guitar, and the answer was no. In fact, the only Godin dealer told me 'we don't sell those, so we don't order them'...I asked him if he had any guitar synths around so he was able to demo them, and he gave me the 'confused dog tilty head' look, and said 'no, we can't sell them!' . Chicken/egg thing here. Godin themselves instructed me to order one from Musician's Friend to see if I like it. I passed. I think these types of devices get sold to those who know what they are looking for. But I think a lot more loopers might be sold if stores a. had them or b. if the salesdudes knew how to demo them. I swear, I sold a dozen DL4s and quite a few EDPs just by performing, with people coming up to me and saying 'what is *that*??'. Guitar synth is a terrifying thing to the average guitarist. I am amazed Roland stuck with it this long, actually. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com ect: Re: VG-88 and Roland GR-33 dissapearing rumors > > Once I was in the market for a Godin Multiac-SA, with the > idea of using it for both amplified acoustic guitar and synth > sounds. I went to the local Godin dealer, and they had no > acoustic guitar amps and no Roland synths. I was somewhat > flabbergasted, and asked them how they proposed to sell them, > and they said they sold plenty as it was. > > TravisH >