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Well, similar - but not the same. Here are many "words" about the devices -- I'm still curious to hear from someone who actually has both devices and can offer opinions based on that. 1) The Digitech http://www.digitech.com/products/JamMan/JamMan.htm When we invented the PDS8000 pedal almost twenty years ago, it stored eight seconds of audio. Now we've reinvented it using removable CompactFlashT memory to store up to 6.5 hours*! A wide range of features combined with ease of use make the DigiTech® JamMan® the perfect looper/phrase sampler for practicing, composing, and performing. The JamMan opens up new horizons to your musical explorations. The possibilities are literally endless, endless, endless.! Save up to 99 independent loops at one time. Store over 24 minutes of looping time on the included CompactFlash card. Upgrade to a 2GB card to store up to 6.5 hours of audio! Connect to your computer via USB and never lose another loop ever again! Record rhythm loops and solo over them on the fly, completely Hands-FreeT. Load up the JamMan with bass lines, drums, harmonies, and more; create an entire backup band. Slow down or speed up any song without changing pitch to master that tricky riff. *With optional 2GB card http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM05/Content/DigiTech/PR/JamMan.html DigiTech Introduces JamMan Looper/Phrase Sampler Includes a Compact Flash card with storage for over 24 minutes of record time and 99 loops, USB connectivity, an XLR microphone input, power supply, 44.1 kHz CD-quality audio plus a full six-year warranty July 24, 2005 Almost two decades ago DigiTech developed the PDS 8000 pedal for loop-based audio performance. Now DigiTech takes looping from the original 8-second volatile recording memory of the PDS 8000 straight into the 21st century with the innovative JamMan pedal, which is capable of saving up to 6.5 hours of loops and sample phrases. The JamMan Looper/Phrase Sampler is an effects processor dedicated to loop creation, manipulation, playback and overdubbing, based on the classic Lexicon JamMan rackmount effect. The new JamMan offers tremendous loop capabilities at resolutions up to CD-quality 44.1 kHz in a compact, easy-to-use stompbox format specially tailored to the needs of guitarists and performing musicians. The DigiTech JamMan is equipped with a full complement of input and output connections. Inputs include a low-impedance XLR jack, along with a 1/4" instrument-level jack, each with a dedicated level control. A 1/8" Aux Input jack can accept signals from external sources such as CD or MP3 players. A 1/4" output (compatible with amps, mixers or headphones) is provided, as is a USB port for connecting the JamMan to a computer -- this allows the JamMan to serve as a Compact Flash card reader, as well as enabling loop WAV data to be transferred to and from a computer for unlimited archiving of material. An optional FSX3 footswitch can be connected to the footswitch jack for controlling loop select up and down, as well as the loop auto-recording arming function for complete Hands-Free use. Loops can be recorded using any of the inputs, and unlimited overdubs can be added to any loop; overdubs can be erased, and there is one level of undo/redo available. Auto Record allows the JamMan to begin recording as soon as it detects signal at its input. When recording from the Aux Input, three additional record modes are available for creating backing tracks and loops: Center Cancel removes any material that is common to the left and right channels -- material panned to the center (usually this would be lead vocal or solo instruments). In Full Range Simulation mode, an EQ curve is applied to the incoming Aux Input audio; the curve allows full-range audio to be played back through a guitar amp/speaker with sound more like a hi-fi recording. In Center Cancel and Full Range Sim mode, both center cancellation and equalization are applied to the Aux Input signal. 2) Loop Station RC 20 XL http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/RC-20XL/ Realtime Phrase Recording and Sampling Whether for use onstage or at home, the new RC-20XL will add depth and excitement to your performances by allowing you to layer phrases in real time - as many stacks as you like until you fill up the 16 minutes of ample recording space on the RC-20XL. Explore the expressive options of sound-on-sound performance by layering your own phrases to create a massive "one-person band" experience. Build the ultimate solo, and do it all live in real time. - Super long recording time: up to 16 minutes! - Save up to 11 loops at a time - Undo function makes it easy to create perfect loops - Built-in auto quantize for simple and accurate loop timing - Change loop tempo without changing pitch - Footswitchable loop select (with optional FS-5U/FS-6) Loopers-Delight reviews: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/RC20/boss-rc20.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Morton" <dmorton@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Loop Station RC 20 XL - Jamman Digitech On 12/29/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote: > So, this is to say the Loop Station RC 20 XL is better than the Jamman > Digitech?? Not better, the same.